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Post by fanoftheold on May 3, 2019 23:30:23 GMT -5
It's officially tabled. Arti's book will never see the light of day and to be honest the people involved worked their asses off on it. There are some stories in it about Billy, Allen that would raise some eyebrows. So if anyone...a roadie, cameraman, drum tech ever wanted to write a book that was on that plane...they can't? Judy and Gary are really keeping this stuff close to themselves and to be honest, when Gary and Judy are gone, their children will do the same.
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Post by Forum Lord on May 4, 2019 9:41:32 GMT -5
Arti will eventually get his story out... he is a marine. Where there is a will there is a way... Judy and Gary can not stop it forever.
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Post by BlueMonday on May 4, 2019 19:17:42 GMT -5
Arti will eventually get his story out... he is a marine. Where there is a will there is a way... Judy and Gary can not stop it forever. I think they can. For one thing, they have much deeper pockets than Arti and can wear him out in court. And once again, the fans lose out.
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Post by fanoftheold on May 5, 2019 4:32:53 GMT -5
To correct my other post...NO BAND MEMBERS CAN WRITE A BOOK...others can like Eckerman, Odom, etc. etc. Which really doesn't make any sense. When Cagey quotes the "There's things going on you don't know" line...well, he is correct. This book has quite a few stories that would piss people off. I'm only guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if Judy and Gary somehow got tipped off by an insider and gave them a heads up on what stories were in this book. I would love to see Craig Reed write a book but it would take about 60 years to proof read it and get it to publisher.
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Post by Forum Lord on May 5, 2019 7:36:14 GMT -5
They can not stop him. Artimus has a number of ways to release his story. THEY CAN NOT STOP HIM. And all the lawyers on the planet can NOT stop him.
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Post by BlueMonday on May 5, 2019 8:47:12 GMT -5
To correct my other post...NO BAND MEMBERS CAN WRITE A BOOK Ed wrote a book before he died and thankfully had time to finish it. Sharon is currently editing. Whether or not you like Ed, knowing him, this book will be anything but boring. They can not stop him. Artimus has a number of ways to release his story. THEY CAN NOT STOP HIM. And all the lawyers on the planet can NOT stop him. After what happened to him with the false accusation in the 90s, I seriously doubt that Arti wants to see the inside of a courtroom ever again. Or deal with lawyers in any other manner. He's 70 years old and probably wants some peace and quiet in his life at this time. Can't say I blame him.
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Post by JerseyGirl on May 5, 2019 9:20:29 GMT -5
It's officially tabled. Arti's book will never see the light of day and to be honest the people involved worked their asses off on it. How do you know it is officially tabled? Where did you get this information? To correct my other post...NO BAND MEMBERS CAN WRITE A BOOK...others can like Eckerman, Odom, etc. etc. Which really doesn't make any sense. When Cagey quotes the "There's things going on you don't know" line...well, he is correct. This book has quite a few stories that would piss people off. I'm only guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if Judy and Gary somehow got tipped off by an insider and gave them a heads up on what stories were in this book. I would love to see Craig Reed write a book but it would take about 60 years to proof read it and get it to publisher. Judy, Gary and some others may have been given an advanced copy to read. This could have been when they filed the lawsuit to stop the book. As for Gene writing a book. He was not around the band long enough to know the things Ed and Artimus know. Plus he was only close to Ronnie. Gene's book was a way to help him with medical bills. 'Lynyrd Skynyrd I'll Never Forget You' was written in 1983 before the tribute band or Gary's Skynyrd. The stories Gene and Ron Eckerman wrote probably were approved by Judy and Gary which is why they did not stop publication. Craig probably also signed one of those famous you can't tell about your time in Skynyrd papers when he parted ways with Gary. To correct my other post...NO BAND MEMBERS CAN WRITE A BOOK Ed wrote a book before he died and thankfully had time to finish it. Sharon is currently editing. Whether or not you like Ed, knowing him, this book will be anything but boring. Just because Ed wrote a book does not mean it will get published. Judy and Gary may have filed a lawsuit against Ed or Ed's estate. We don't know that. Sharon could be keeping everything quiet. They can not stop him. Artimus has a number of ways to release his story. THEY CAN NOT STOP HIM. And all the lawyers on the planet can NOT stop him. After what happened to him with the false accusation in the 90s, I seriously doubt that Arti wants to see the inside of a courtroom ever again. Or deal with lawyers in any other manner. He's 70 years old and probably wants some peace and quiet in his life at this time. Can't say I blame him. To get his story out I think Artimus would have no problem being in a courtroom. Money is more the issue. It costs a great deal to hire a lawyer. What Cagey is trying to say Blue is that there are other ways to get the story out.
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Post by grayghost on May 5, 2019 10:07:57 GMT -5
Literally hundreds of books come out every year that deal with the rich and famous. I don't see how Gary and Judy could possibly stop Ed from writing about HIS time w/ the band. The Kennedy family in their heyday was as powerful an American family as there was. And there have been countless books written on their deeds, misdeeds and scandals that they've been unable to stop. Bad stuff comes out.
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Post by fanoftheold on May 5, 2019 17:58:12 GMT -5
It's officially tabled. Arti's book will never see the light of day and to be honest the people involved worked their asses off on it. How do you know it is officially tabled? Where did you get this information? To correct my other post...NO BAND MEMBERS CAN WRITE A BOOK...others can like Eckerman, Odom, etc. etc. Which really doesn't make any sense. When Cagey quotes the "There's things going on you don't know" line...well, he is correct. This book has quite a few stories that would piss people off. I'm only guessing but I wouldn't be surprised if Judy and Gary somehow got tipped off by an insider and gave them a heads up on what stories were in this book. I would love to see Craig Reed write a book but it would take about 60 years to proof read it and get it to publisher. Judy, Gary and some others may have been given an advanced copy to read. This could have been when they filed the lawsuit to stop the book. As for Gene writing a book. He was not around the band long enough to know the things Ed and Artimus know. Plus he was only close to Ronnie. Gene's book was a way to help him with medical bills. 'Lynyrd Skynyrd I'll Never Forget You' was written in 1983 before the tribute band or Gary's Skynyrd. The stories Gene and Ron Eckerman wrote probably were approved by Judy and Gary which is why they did not stop publication. Craig probably also signed one of those famous you can't tell about your time in Skynyrd papers when he parted ways with Gary. Ed wrote a book before he died and thankfully had time to finish it. Sharon is currently editing. Whether or not you like Ed, knowing him, this book will be anything but boring. Just because Ed wrote a book does not mean it will get published. Judy and Gary may have filed a lawsuit against Ed or Ed's estate. We don't know that. Sharon could be keeping everything quiet. After what happened to him with the false accusation in the 90s, I seriously doubt that Arti wants to see the inside of a courtroom ever again. Or deal with lawyers in any other manner. He's 70 years old and probably wants some peace and quiet in his life at this time. Can't say I blame him. To get his story out I think Artimus would have no problem being in a courtroom. Money is more the issue. It costs a great deal to hire a lawyer. What Cagey is trying to say Blue is that there are other ways to get the story out. All the information is right from the horses mouth...the writer. Ed's book I don't think has anything to do with that blood oath nonsense. So basically anyone can write a book...just not those people that were band members in 1977 that is the way it was explained to me. As for Arti getting his story out...maybe by voice but not by book. The outlook is grim and to quote "we don't have million dollar lawyers like Gary and Judy" .
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Post by JerseyGirl on May 5, 2019 20:04:10 GMT -5
I was under the impress that when Artimus separated from Gary's band he was required to sign paperwork stating he could not profit on his time as a member of Skynyrd. It was my understanding he was forced it into signing it. This is what I gathered when I read the paperwork for the lawsuit concerning the upcoming moving about the plane crash.
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Post by courtd83 on May 5, 2019 21:09:01 GMT -5
I’d still be surprised if Ed’s book actually makes it out. Unless, of course, he set up something before his death. We know he wasn’t hurting with money and I’m sure he left explicit instructions regarding his book. But Judy only wants the sunshine and rainbows portion of the Skynyrd life....she’s a sad joke of a person if you ask me. I’ve never seen someone live so fabulously off a life of lies like she has.
When it comes down to it, these guys left standing are either gonna have to just throw all the dirty laundry out via word of mouth or wait on each other to kick the bucket and then blast it all to kingdom come. I know Artimus would like to make money from his book and I don’t blame him but Judy will stop him at every turn. But if he just point blank blurts it all out? She can’t do a whole lot about that.
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Post by snickers on May 6, 2019 9:18:34 GMT -5
Is there really something in this book that would shock fans to their core? I've been told on many occasions that I simply couldn't handle the truth. I don't think anything shocks me anymore. Pretty sure the Skynyrd kids have heard it all, so it can't be about shocking them. Is it because Judy and Gary aren't making any money off Arti's book? Does anyone have any theories on what is so shocking, and maintained secrecy all these years. We all know Ronnie wasn't buckled in. That was alittle jarring for me to hear. The curiosity is killing me. The only thing that shocks me is how much control that gold-digger has, and still has to this very day. Really hope someone spills the beans.
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Post by MDfan aka The MD Well Man on May 6, 2019 14:50:49 GMT -5
Don't ask, there is bad sick irresponsible behavior as adults on all levels from the early band that I have read on this hear forum. Dale Bowmens book and other sources that are out there. Don't go down the rabbit hole just dig the music. Somebody will upset the applecart one day, we as fans also got to remember we were not there. We are just following everyday real life clues these guys left behind. it don't change the list of great tunes these freaks gave us
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Post by snickers on May 6, 2019 15:53:37 GMT -5
Don't ask, there is bad sick irresponsible behavior as adults on all levels from the early band that I have read on this hear forum. Dale Bowmens book and other sources that are out there. Don't go down the rabbit hole just dig the music. Somebody will upset the applecart one day, we as fans also got to remember we were not there. We are just following everyday real life clues these guys left behind. it don't change the list of great tunes these freaks gave us It's funny you mention Bowmen's book. I bought that book(hard cover with the bookmark) for cheap on a thift store web site a few months ago. I haven't read it yet, due to busy schedule/life. I can't wait to read it now that things are slowing down for me. I agree with you on all accounts. I need to just shut my mouth and mind my own business. But my gosh. The curiously is killing me. Just saying
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Post by JerseyGirl on May 6, 2019 18:25:43 GMT -5
I’d still be surprised if Ed’s book actually makes it out. Unless, of course, he set up something before his death. We know he wasn’t hurting with money and I’m sure he left explicit instructions regarding his book. But Judy only wants the sunshine and rainbows portion of the Skynyrd life....she’s a sad joke of a person if you ask me. I’ve never seen someone live so fabulously off a life of lies like she has. Isn't Gary sort of doing the same thing? When it comes down to it, these guys left standing are either gonna have to just throw all the dirty laundry out via word of mouth or wait on each other to kick the bucket and then blast it all to kingdom come. I know Artimus would like to make money from his book and I don’t blame him but Judy will stop him at every turn. But if he just point blank blurts it all out? She can’t do a whole lot about that. I am with you on this one. Maybe Artimus should spell the dirty laundry. All he has to do is share the dirt one time. If what he states can be proven then, Judy and Gary can't do anything about it accept run for cover. Artimus has every right to write and share about his time as a member of Skynyrd. Unlike someone else Artimus cares about the quality of the Skynyrd music.
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Post by courtd83 on May 6, 2019 19:28:46 GMT -5
I’d still be surprised if Ed’s book actually makes it out. Unless, of course, he set up something before his death. We know he wasn’t hurting with money and I’m sure he left explicit instructions regarding his book. But Judy only wants the sunshine and rainbows portion of the Skynyrd life....she’s a sad joke of a person if you ask me. I’ve never seen someone live so fabulously off a life of lies like she has. Isn't Gary sort of doing the same thing? When it comes down to it, these guys left standing are either gonna have to just throw all the dirty laundry out via word of mouth or wait on each other to kick the bucket and then blast it all to kingdom come. I know Artimus would like to make money from his book and I don’t blame him but Judy will stop him at every turn. But if he just point blank blurts it all out? She can’t do a whole lot about that. I am with you on this one. Maybe Artimus should spell the dirty laundry. All he has to do is share the dirt one time. If what he states can be proven then, Judy and Gary can't do anything about it accept run for cover. Artimus has every right to write and share about his time as a member of Skynyrd. Unlike someone else Artimus cares about the quality of the Skynyrd music. I give Gary a small pass because he was an actual member of Skynyrd. He lived it, survived the crash, helped create skynyrd. Hence why he gets a small pass from me. He is a genuine, legit, actual part of their history. I’m not a fan of how he’s handled it all but, on the other hand, I don’t envy him for the struggles and pain he’s went through. There are things that man has endured that I’d never in my life want to and I’m sure his hurts go far deeper than just physical. Judy? Yes she lost a spouse and the father of her child. That’s another pain I don’t envy. But she acts like some sort of high and holy gatekeeper for all things Skynyrd when even Stevie Wonder and Helen Keller could see she didn’t give two shyts then and doesn’t give two shyts now. She’d slit Melody’s throat if it meant she got a windfall of cash. She just strikes me as that type of woman. She’s loyal to you....as long as you’ve got what she wants. No, Ronnie wasn’t a great husband. But I think even he would be ashamed to see how she’s handled stuff.
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Post by fanoftheold on May 6, 2019 19:39:30 GMT -5
The book touches base on the "domestic" parts of band members lives. Like some of you said on here to me "Living family members don't have thick skin". So...if some on here don't like talking about certain things because of living daughters, sons, etc. etc. then why is it okay for Arti? Don't get me wrong, I'm playing devils advocate here. I don't have a problem with people telling their stories, good or bad...we're all human and its how many damn years? In 1977 could you have fathomed recreational weed?
But then again....
The #MeToo movement might have a field day...I'll leave it at that...not that it matters now but think about the money loss to people involved now.
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Post by courtd83 on May 6, 2019 19:43:29 GMT -5
The book touches base on the "domestic" parts of band members lives. Like some of you said on here to me "Living family members don't have thick skin". So...if some on here don't like talking about certain things because of living daughters, sons, etc. etc. then why is it okay for Arti? Don't get me wrong, I'm playing devils advocate here. I don't have a problem with people telling their stories, good or bad...we're all human and its how many damn years? In 1977 could you have fathomed recreational weed? But then again.... The #MeToo movement might have a field day...I'll leave it at that...not that it matters now but think about the money loss to people involved now. I’ll be honest, My curiosity is about to kill me lol which is so wrong, I know....I’d just love toread his book but alas.... but it I totally get what you’re saying regarding the situation.
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Post by Carolina Girl on May 6, 2019 20:00:53 GMT -5
Don't ask, there is bad sick irresponsible behavior as adults on all levels from the early band that I have read on this hear forum. Dale Bowmens book and other sources that are out there. Don't go down the rabbit hole just dig the music. Somebody will upset the applecart one day, we as fans also got to remember we were not there. We are just following everyday real life clues these guys left behind. it don't change the list of great tunes these freaks gave us It's funny you mention Bowmen's book. I bought that book(hard cover with the bookmark) for cheap on a thift store web site a few months ago. I haven't read it yet, due to busy schedule/life. I can't wait to read it now that things are slowing down for me. I agree with you on all accounts. I need to just shut my mouth and mind my own business. But my gosh. The curiously is killing me. Just saying
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Post by JerseyGirl on May 6, 2019 20:09:04 GMT -5
The book touches base on the "domestic" parts of band members lives. Like some of you said on here to me "Living family members don't have thick skin". So...if some on here don't like talking about certain things because of living daughters, sons, etc. etc. then why is it okay for Arti? Don't get me wrong, I'm playing devils advocate here. I don't have a problem with people telling their stories, good or bad...we're all human and its how many damn years? In 1977 could you have fathomed recreational weed? But then again.... The #MeToo movement might have a field day...I'll leave it at that...not that it matters now but think about the money loss to people involved now. As they say the plot thickens.
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