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Post by travlnmn41 on Oct 23, 2018 20:55:00 GMT -5
You can't help but wish nothing but some financial success for AP, seems like a truly sweet man. But he's what I would call a bit of a space cadet and most definitely someone who doesn't seem to have a grasp on the truth, much like BP. I would buy the book and try to decipher the truth from what he believes is the truth. I read Gene Odom's book and I'm all set to read Eckerman's book next. Over 40 years later and they're still fascinating individuals and beyond talented. I would also recommend "As I Recall" by Larry Steele, may God rest his soul. He was Allen's classmate since first grade. His book contains an amazing amount of detail about the formation of the band and the Jacksonville music scene in the 60s and early 70s.
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Post by IU1974 on Oct 28, 2018 11:45:44 GMT -5
Sorry for asking this here (related somewhat).
Ranked from best to worst (maybe top 3-4), what are the best books to buy that tell the Skynyrd story up to 1977 which are also the most accurate? Thx!!
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Post by FightingSioux4Ever on Oct 31, 2018 13:26:58 GMT -5
Has the book truly been delayed a year or is it just out of stock on Amazon.com?
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Post by myguy1948 on Oct 31, 2018 14:12:28 GMT -5
Has the book truly been delayed a year or is it just out of stock on Amazon.com? I got an email from amazon saying my estimated delivery date would be Dec.17, 2018 through Feb. 4, 2019...
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Post by myguy1948 on Oct 31, 2018 14:14:06 GMT -5
Sorry for asking this here (related somewhat). Ranked from best to worst (maybe top 3-4), what are the best books to buy that tell the Skynyrd story up to 1977 which are also the most accurate? Thx!! That's a good question? I've only read Gene's book. I'd like to read Ron Eckerman's and of course I'm like everyone else, I'm waiting on Artimus's book.
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Post by JerseyGirl on Oct 31, 2018 19:29:18 GMT -5
Has the book truly been delayed a year or is it just out of stock on Amazon.com? The book has not been released yet.
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Post by grayghost on Nov 1, 2018 9:27:36 GMT -5
Sorry for asking this here (related somewhat). Ranked from best to worst (maybe top 3-4), what are the best books to buy that tell the Skynyrd story up to 1977 which are also the most accurate? Thx!! IU- here's a thread on most of the Skynyrd books to date. You can read our board members thoughts on them. As many have said, you'll want to read several to get a more complete feel for the history of the band from 64-77. Skynyrd Book Reviews
"Turn it Up", by Ron Eckerman, is my favorite so far, but I also liked Gene Odum's "Lynyrd Skynyrd-Remembering the Freebirds of Southern Rock". Enjoyed Marley Brandt's "Freebirds" as well.
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Post by IU1974 on Nov 1, 2018 16:57:16 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by grayghost on Mar 13, 2019 18:01:14 GMT -5
Saw this posted today on another Skynyrd site. Not looking good for Arti's book.
Pulped March 13, 2019 News emerged last week that Artimus Pyle’s book, Street Survivor: Keeping the Beat in Lynyrd Skynyrd, which chronicles his experience during and after the 1977 plane crash, has been shelved following the threat of legal action.
This short message appeared on Artimus’ Twitter feed.
Artimus’ memoir will not be published in the foreseeable future, following a legal threat by Judy, Gary, etc.”
A further tweet suggested that the book will never see the light of day.
Yep. I doubt it will ever come out.”
The book – ghost written by former music journalist Dean Goodman – is Pyle’s account of events leading up to the plane crash, its immediate aftermath and the years of physical and psychological healing that followed.
The book has divided opinion among Skynyrd fans. Many backed it, seeing it as an opportunity for Artimus to set the record straight about what happened on that fateful night in Mississippi. Others, on the other hand, saw no merit in revisiting an episode that continues to cause distress for the families of those that perished in the crash.
Artimus has not spoken publicly since his twitter account posted the update. He is no doubt keeping a low profile, but Dean kindly sent me this statement:
For me, it’s obviously disappointing after many years of hard work (we first got together in February, 2012), but it was the best creative experience of my life.
Artimus and I are so proud of the book, which is about much more than Skynyrd. Even then, it would have been a huge addition to the shockingly sparse canon of Skynyrd literature, and would have raised people’s knowledge and appreciation of the band immeasurably.”
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Post by sweethomebamaboy on Mar 13, 2019 18:22:34 GMT -5
Has anyone yet told Judy, Gary, et al "Screw you and your lawsuit threats, I'm gonna do this anyway"? Because I swear those two especially are in line for an ass whipping, either figuratively or literally.
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Post by grayghost on Mar 13, 2019 20:03:08 GMT -5
He should do a series of weekly podcasts. If his stories about HIS time with Skynyrd are true, then he has nothing to fear from Judy and Gary. I'm guessing that he doesn't have the artillery to fight their threats on the book (and they know it). But if there is something they are really concerned bout coming to light, they shouldn't push him too far. He might just say F'it!
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Post by grayghost on Mar 15, 2019 16:24:55 GMT -5
Judy's statement regarding the book:
“I have read the manuscript for the book and if it was a story about Arti’s life or even his life with the band, none of us would care. But when you run around the country professing your love for Ronnie Van Zant then write a book trashing everyone he ever loved from his brother to his dad to the band and their wives, to his daughter and everyone in between then we do have issue with it.
“I have never read nor heard interviews from Ed that are negative so I can’t imagine he would write a negative book. The manuscript is full of untruths and speaking badly of the dead who can’t dispute those untruths is bs! There has been enough bs written about Ronnie and LS so it’s time to write positive stuff. And bullshit does not need to come from within the Skynyrd family.”
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Post by JerseyGirl on Mar 15, 2019 17:31:03 GMT -5
Gray Ghost, where did you find this statement from Judy concerning Artimus' book? Judy's statement regarding the book: “I have read the manuscript for the book and if it was a story about Arti’s life or even his life with the band, none of us would care. But when you run around the country professing your love for Ronnie Van Zant then write a book trashing everyone he ever loved from his brother to his dad to the band and their wives, to his daughter and everyone in between then we do have issue with it. “I have never read nor heard interviews from Ed that are negative so I can’t imagine he would write a negative book. The manuscript is full of untruths and speaking badly of the dead who can’t dispute those untruths is bs! There has been enough bs written about Ronnie and LS so it’s time to write positive stuff. And bullshit does not need to come from within the Skynyrd family.” So Judy thinks only positive stuff should be talked about. What planet is she living on? Where is Judy's movie showing that Ronnie was an angel that could do no wrong? How come Lacy and Marion were raising Tammy? What positive stuff does she want someone to write about? All the articles about the band's bad behavior in the 1970's must be fake news. What do you call Gary and the band voting Allen out? Maybe the band should have done a realty show to show the fans what they are like if they are a bunch of wonderful positive people. Where is your Skynyrd museum Judy? A museum was your chance to show the band in a positive light. #delusional
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Post by veegee on Mar 15, 2019 21:21:41 GMT -5
Gray Ghost, where did you find this statement from Judy concerning Artimus' book? Judy's statement regarding the book: “I have read the manuscript for the book and if it was a story about Arti’s life or even his life with the band, none of us would care. But when you run around the country professing your love for Ronnie Van Zant then write a book trashing everyone he ever loved from his brother to his dad to the band and their wives, to his daughter and everyone in between then we do have issue with it. “I have never read nor heard interviews from Ed that are negative so I can’t imagine he would write a negative book. The manuscript is full of untruths and speaking badly of the dead who can’t dispute those untruths is bs! There has been enough bs written about Ronnie and LS so it’s time to write positive stuff. And bullshit does not need to come from within the Skynyrd family.” So Judy thinks only positive stuff should be talked about. What planet is she living on? Where is Judy's movie showing that Ronnie was an angel that could do no wrong? How come Lacy and Marion were raising Tammy? What positive stuff does she want someone to write about? All the articles about the band's bad behavior in the 1970's must be fake news. What do you call Gary and the band voting Allen out? Maybe the band should have done a realty show to show the fans what they are like if they are a bunch of wonderful positive people. Where is your Skynyrd museum Judy? A museum was your chance to show the band in a positive light. #delusional She commented on a post on True Lynyrd Skynyrd Fans facebook group. It has since been shared in a few other groups where she has also popped up and made some more comments. The woman seriously pisses me off with her bullshit The thing what really gets to me is fans who start putting her down and calling her out all change their tune when she appears in the comment thread. Start kissing her ass, it's sickening
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Mar 15, 2019 21:39:22 GMT -5
Judy's statement regarding the book: “I have read the manuscript for the book and if it was a story about Arti’s life or even his life with the band, none of us would care. But when you run around the country professing your love for Ronnie Van Zant then write a book trashing everyone he ever loved from his brother to his dad to the band and their wives, to his daughter and everyone in between then we do have issue with it. “I have never read nor heard interviews from Ed that are negative so I can’t imagine he would write a negative book. The manuscript is full of untruths and speaking badly of the dead who can’t dispute those untruths is bs! There has been enough bs written about Ronnie and LS so it’s time to write positive stuff. And bullshit does not need to come from within the Skynyrd family.” Well agreed Dear Lady. I doubt Arti will talk shit of Ronnie.The rest of you are fair game. Now what exactly does he say about the wives and is it true? I myself, have listened to Arti with half an ear. Arti is known to stray off course and literally make no sense at all. Granted. However, Artimus D. Pyle has also been known to call a strike a strike. Funny, I feel like I might be describing you, my dear. Let us not even get into Judds VanZant..?/.. You ma'am, just happened to be sitting under the right apple tree-at the right time or your relevance to this world would have been seen from the other side of a serving tray. Now that is a damn fact. I am so sick of you Skynyrd has beens stating the gospel on Skynyrd from ground level to the grave. The last of you have run an agenda that suits YOU and your bank account. What a disgusting end to the Lynyrd Skynyrd Legacy you and Rosebutt Gary have done to this bands heritage. Ronnie and Allen will kick everyone of your asses one day. Some sooner than later.
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Post by courtd83 on Mar 16, 2019 17:11:39 GMT -5
Out of the two, Ed would more likely be willing to make a negative comment about Ronnie as opposed to Artimus, IMHO. Hide and watch....she will move hell and earth to ensure Ed’s book doesn’t come out, either. He’s said plenty of derogatory things regarding Ronnie and told stories. She’s a few fries short of a happy meal if she thinks Ronnie was some saint living life as a loving committed and devoted family man. Did he love his daughter? No doubt. Did he love Judy? Uhhhhh....next! She got rich the second that plane crashed. It ensured her a lifetime of cash flow without ever having to go thru a divorce, nor did she have to sneak around anymore. Lucky gal! I’m sure she felt upset a bit when it happened but her actions and words since then prove she made out like a damned bandit and knows it. Too bad she hit the lottery.
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Post by veegee on Mar 16, 2019 17:28:17 GMT -5
Judys latest comment : Judy Van Zant I’m going to say this one more time and then I’m done - Artimus has the right to tell his story, even HISstory as it pertains to his time in LS. He DOES NOT have the right to tell Ronnie, Gary, Allen, Leon, Billy, Bob and Ed’s stories. No does he have the right to slander members and their families! Or other who have been associated with the band over the years! Thanks for your love for LS and for keeping the music alive all these years!!
So is she now going to sue Arti for slander ?
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Mar 16, 2019 19:51:55 GMT -5
Lets see. I am going to say this one more time. Anyone has a right to tell any damn story that one chooses. I am not fighting for Artimus in anyway. Could care less. More, I am just floored by the outright Hypocrisy. Talk about throwing rocks in a glass house. WTH. Who is Judds now? Now she is the band body guard after she has allowed the Traveling Impersonators to parade around performing as Lynyrd Skynyrd in a horribly disrespectful production. I agree with the love for Lynyrd Skynyrd. There is no love for you Judds….. Just stop it Judds. It shows on you...
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Post by Cagey-1 on Mar 16, 2019 20:33:49 GMT -5
So is she now going to sue Arti for slander ? She would not dare do that. Would be the dumbest thing she ever did. All that would do for her is open the can of worms in public for sure! I hope she does, but she won't. And Artimus can tell the stories of other band members if he lived it. Judy needs to STFU and go the hell away. She is not Lynyrd Skynyrd. She does not have nor possess the story of Lynyrd Skynyrd. All she does is own a part of it by marriage and marriage only. Other than that she is worthless and needs to stay as far away from Skynyrd as Leon's first wife is. That is where Judy belongs. Not out here running her selfish self centered mouth. Does anyone care what she has to say? I think it is time for a poll! Time to vote Judy out of Lynyrd Skynyrd! Get lost Judy! We WANT to hear what Artimus has to say! NOT YOU! Artimus is Lynyrd Skynyrd while Judy you are just a fucking parasite on Skynyrd's pimple on Ronnie's ass. Judy is nothing to Lynyrd Skynyrd. She never picked one note. She never created anything worthwhile in her life except preying upon musicians to hook up with and marry and then suck dry and control everything like some petty PMS dictator. I am sick and tired of Judy involving herself into Lynyrd Skynyrd. She has caused more harm and more division and hate than anyone else. We should dig Ronnie up and kick his fucking ass for ever marrying her!
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Mar 16, 2019 20:51:05 GMT -5
Amen... STFU Juddz. I second the motion.
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