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Post by fstbck2000 on Dec 28, 2023 9:06:33 GMT -5
Here’s a little something Judy put on FB Judy Van Zant So many experts! Facts - Rickey is not an original member of LS, he played with the band briefly in the early days then left to do his own thing. But none of that matters, he's in the band now and keeping the great music of LS alive. And for all you experts out there, the LS name brand is owned and controlled by Ronnie VanZant, Allen Collins and Gary Rossington (or their respective heirs), Allen's family never sold his rights and Allen was never screwed! All decisions relating to the LS name are determined and decided by the three original founding members (and their respective heirs). So stop trying to second guess our decisions. While the band touring today may not be the original band they are keeping the music alive. And the legacy of Lynyrd Skynyrd lives on!!
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Post by heathinvader on Dec 28, 2023 9:50:22 GMT -5
Here’s a little something Judy put on FB Judy Van Zant So many experts! Facts - Rickey is not an original member of LS, he played with the band briefly in the early days then left to do his own thing. But none of that matters, he's in the band now and keeping the great music of LS alive. And for all you experts out there, the LS name brand is owned and controlled by Ronnie VanZant, Allen Collins and Gary Rossington (or their respective heirs), Allen's family never sold his rights and Allen was never screwed! All decisions relating to the LS name are determined and decided by the three original founding members (and their respective heirs). So stop trying to second guess our decisions. While the band touring today may not be the original band they are keeping the music alive. And the legacy of Lynyrd Skynyrd lives on!! Well at least she’s honest about the whole Rickey thing, but Allen never getting screwed over? Yeah, I wouldn’t be so sure about that, as other accounts of people who were there say otherwise, including Artimus and Kent. Multiple people’s words against one!
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Dec 28, 2023 12:39:28 GMT -5
On the original First & Last album inside the album cover had a long list of additional studio musicians. Does this make Wayne Perkins or Greg Walker original too? Hells bells! I think Kooper has more of right than muddick to cry original, he is Rosevelt GooK EmmDee, you state a fact of substance. Yes. Kooper has more right to being an original Skynyrd than Medlockey. Great Point Made!
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Dec 28, 2023 12:42:14 GMT -5
He'd spend it on strippers I have reason to believe he would spend it on Ballet and Opera shows.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Dec 28, 2023 13:01:53 GMT -5
Here’s a little something Judy put on FB Judy Van Zant So many experts! Facts - Rickey is not an original member of LS, he played with the band briefly in the early days then left to do his own thing. But none of that matters, he's in the band now and keeping the great music of LS alive. And for all you experts out there, the LS name brand is owned and controlled by Ronnie VanZant, Allen Collins and Gary Rossington (or their respective heirs), Allen's family never sold his rights and Allen was never screwed! All decisions relating to the LS name are determined and decided by the three original founding members (and their respective heirs). So stop trying to second guess our decisions. While the band touring today may not be the original band they are keeping the music alive. And the legacy of Lynyrd Skynyrd lives on!! Well, I agree with Judds in principle. She is very clear about Medlockey being an original. And so factually true. Who is saying Allen's family has sold out? Or that Allen got screwed. Not here that I know of. Lynyrd Skynyrd music is so great that, of course, the music will carry on. And very possibly carry on for the next 50 years. Infact, the music is so damn good that it can "Survive" a Traveling Tribute Band" Traveling around under the name of Lynyrd Skynyrd. A group that individually, or collectively, has not contributed a damn thing to the Lynyrd Skynyrd Legacy. That said, Money needs to be made, Lifestyles need to continue, Grandkids need support, so we get a Traveling Tribute Band. What degree of talent is required, where individually they have failed to create for themselves, the efforts to sing and play what Gary, Ronnie and Allen created? The magic in the music is so far above needing to be kept alive by a Traveling Tribute Band. But a TTB is needed to get checks in the mail. I digress humbly.
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Post by billyb on Dec 28, 2023 20:41:59 GMT -5
Here’s a little something Judy put on FB Judy Van Zant So many experts! Facts - Rickey is not an original member of LS, he played with the band briefly in the early days then left to do his own thing. But none of that matters, he's in the band now and keeping the great music of LS alive. And for all you experts out there, the LS name brand is owned and controlled by Ronnie VanZant, Allen Collins and Gary Rossington (or their respective heirs), Allen's family never sold his rights and Allen was never screwed! All decisions relating to the LS name are determined and decided by the three original founding members (and their respective heirs). So stop trying to second guess our decisions. While the band touring today may not be the original band they are keeping the music alive. And the legacy of Lynyrd Skynyrd lives on!! Well, I agree with Judds in principle. She is very clear about Medlockey being an original. And so factually true. Who is saying Allen's family has sold out? Or that Allen got screwed. Not here that I know of. Lynyrd Skynyrd music is so great that, of course, the music will carry on. And very possibly carry on for the next 50 years. Infact, the music is so damn good that it can "Survive" a Traveling Tribute Band" Traveling around under the name of Lynyrd Skynyrd. A group that individually, or collectively, has not contributed a damn thing to the Lynyrd Skynyrd Legacy. That said, Money needs to be made, Lifestyles need to continue, Grandkids need support, so we get a Traveling Tribute Band. What degree of talent is required, where individually they have failed to create for themselves, the efforts to sing and play what Gary, Ronnie and Allen created? The magic in the music is so far above needing to be kept alive by a Traveling Tribute Band. But a TTB is needed to get checks in the mail. I digress humbly. Cagey has certainly said that Allen was screwed by Gary and Judy (amongst others).
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Post by SkynyrdFrynd on Dec 30, 2023 10:24:23 GMT -5
Sure. They can at least put a better band together. Hold tryouts or something.
I also find it hilarious she has resorted to fighting with the fan base on social media. 😂
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Dec 30, 2023 14:41:43 GMT -5
"So Many Experts!" The best disposition of Rickless Green Medlockey was established by the very own RRHOF! Judds agrees. Why doesn't Judds just be honest and say we need income and the Failed Founders of the JonJon VanZant Band and Blackfeets Band go on stage as Tribute Players so the estates have cash flow! And the 2 that couldn't make it on their own cut a cut $$$ too!
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Post by heathinvader on Dec 30, 2023 21:41:49 GMT -5
I like Kent’s idea of making Lynyrd Skynyrd a community-driven band, where die-hard fans and friends who actually care about the music and the legacy, and have the musical knowhow to do the job, can play Skynyrd songs on the instruments and equipment belonging to Allen, Gary, Steve, Ed, etc. And if the community makes any new songs with them that sound Skynyrd-like (in the true sense of the word), then MAYBE release an album of said new songs under the Skynyrd name. Johnny and Rickey can still be a part of it, sure, but just don’t let them be in control of it. Let it be controlled by the people. I remember when Cagey first spoke about this idea on the forum a few years back, and honestly, although I know it unfortunately may never happen, I’d still be all for it. I’d say it probably should’ve been like that from the very beginning, as in immediately following the original Tribute Tour.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Dec 31, 2023 0:03:08 GMT -5
That would be a great idea! Problem is, Vector Management would not make any money." As an Expert", I can tell you, The Estates of Allen, Gary and Ronnie have very little input as to what occurs, as a Lynyrd Skynyrd Touring Entity! The Estates do not give a Rytz ass as to what Vector does with the Lynyrd Skynyrd Legacy. It is a complete Send The Check $$$ Relationship! Judy should really just duck into a cloud and cash the checks. Her input is so horribly sacrilegious!
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Post by SkynyrdFrynd on Dec 31, 2023 9:41:24 GMT -5
Seems they’re trying come up with the silliest, corniest gimmicks they can to try to make money off the brand name. What it’s really doing is tarnishing the legacy of the original band which was awesome. Hell House whiskey is a prime example. It’s stupid, corny, and ironically made in San Francisco so it’s about the most un-southern, un-Skynyrd thing imaginable.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Jan 1, 2024 9:31:25 GMT -5
If Ms. Judy would please refresh us all, On the Rule of 3. Or should I say, the lack of.
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Post by SkynyrdFrynd on Jan 1, 2024 18:28:30 GMT -5
Allen’s sister weighs in, 😂
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Jan 1, 2024 18:53:27 GMT -5
Allen’s sister weighs in, 😂 The lady makes absolute and TOTAL sense. Plain and Simple!!! I "Tried" to watch some of the cat and mouse show last night, of the TTB. I told my wife, when I turned it off, "There is not 1 Fn thing Skynyrd about that clown show selling tickets as Lynyrd Skynyrd".
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Post by trents on Jan 2, 2024 20:09:23 GMT -5
The thing that blows my mind is that the current lineup, well most of them, have played the originals songs way more times and decades longer than those that created them. Stuff like that just boggles the mind. How as we get older and look at things with an older perspective things change. Like JFK, when you are a kid he seems like an older guy, even today, until you realize he was middle aged.
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Post by SkynyrdFrynd on Jan 2, 2024 22:07:21 GMT -5
The thing that blows my mind is that the current lineup, well most of them, have played the originals songs way more times and decades longer than those that created them. Stuff like that just boggles the mind. How as we get older and look at things with an older perspective things change. Like JFK, when you are a kid he seems like an older guy, even today, until you realize he was middle aged. And they still haven’t got it right. They butcher the parts!
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Post by collinsrocks on Jan 2, 2024 23:16:30 GMT -5
Allen’s sister weighs in, 😂 The lady makes absolute and TOTAL sense. Plain and Simple!!! I "Tried" to watch some of the cat and mouse show last night, of the TTB. I told my wife, when I turned it off, "There is not 1 Fn thing Skynyrd about that clown show selling tickets as Lynyrd Skynyrd". I had Allen's solo live from Cardiff 1975 keyed up on headphones and pressed play once they started the Freebird solo so I didn't have to hear Medlocke butcher it on National TV. It was very nice going from RVZ singing on CBS right into Allen crushing it as always. Didn't hear one note of Medlocke, my wife said he sounded rough. When they finished on CBS Allen still had 2 mins left in his.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Jan 3, 2024 8:52:30 GMT -5
I talked to Artimes. He watched all of the NYE show. I watched 2 minutes and 47 seconds. Arti was not impressed. If there must be a Tribute Band so the estates can get some cash, sent to themselves, to support their lifestyles, why not the APB. Arti's band is far better than the Traveling Tribute Band, who sells tickets under Lynyrd Skynyrd Marketing Scam!
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Jan 3, 2024 21:43:53 GMT -5
I believe the general fan base will see the Traveling Tribute Band to be increasingly delusional, as time goes on. And on several levels. It is getting pretty obvious that the clown show is starting to, noticeably, sound worse and worse. These crazy sumbytches actually think they are Skynyrd product. Rickless and JonJon really think they have accomplished something. Standing up on a damn stage and butchering someone else's finished product. Mrs. Collins was so correct. Tell them impostures to play some of their own shyt. See what happens! And I happen to agree with her conclusion. Peeps will walk right damn out of the place. The TTB is almost using the tributes to Gary and Ronnie TOO much. It's like-If We Do a Tribute, Maybe they won't notice we sound like shyt!
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Post by MDfan aka The MD Well Man on Jan 4, 2024 3:13:48 GMT -5
Ed King made a comment that when the Tribute Band would play new songs the stands would clear out everyone headed to the Beer Stand and shit house
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