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Post by thenotorious on Mar 13, 2023 18:22:01 GMT -5
Rickey just responded to a comment on instagram saying that he played drums and some guitar for the original band for 2 1/2 years and Gary always considered him an original member.
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Post by SkynyrdFrynd on Mar 13, 2023 18:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by grayghost on Mar 13, 2023 18:58:01 GMT -5
I saw that. First thing I thought of is he's setting the stage to continue the tribute band. Lord help us.
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Post by collinsrocks on Mar 13, 2023 19:01:40 GMT -5
Brandon, the Jim Brown tapes alone prove that he is full of crap about 2.5 years. Those tapes suggest to me he could not have been in the band more than 1.5 years, and even that is a stretch.
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Post by crimsonkt on Mar 13, 2023 19:07:29 GMT -5
I just happened to realize I saw RM's first show with LS after that 25-year hiatus... Whoopie ding-dong! He and HT came on board at the same time and I saw their first concert in WPB. As a musician, I couldn't give two $#!%& about the lineup of that time, but I happened to be there. In fairness, he isn't lying about being there in the early days. So, he's grandfathered in because he predated 1977? GR may have felt that way, but who really can say what GR REALLY felt? He may have SAID that to ensure that there were more "original members" around because the Rule of Three had been a factor with the modern band. Key people dying (Leon and Billy) became a wrench thrown into the machinery that likely threatened, at least psychologically, continuing to tour. I don't remember when the Rule of Three became legally moot, but the loss of 70's members had to be in the back of his mind throughout the rest of the life of the band. So, since JVZ hung out at HH and was kin the RVZ, is he grandfathered in as an original member? RM seems to have been elevated by rationalization, so.... Dale was romantically linked to more than one member... Whoops, better not go down that path....
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Mar 13, 2023 20:29:14 GMT -5
I can tell you 100% factually that in 1978 Gary damn sure did not think Rickless Green was an original. And in 1979 Allen damn sure did not consider Rickless Green anything but a thief of music.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Mar 13, 2023 20:37:28 GMT -5
Ok Rickless, let me tell you how bad your Muscle Shoals complications fared. Once heard, never listened to again... Decades have gone by, and your recordings are still buried.
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Post by HUDGE "JerseyDan" on Mar 13, 2023 20:54:46 GMT -5
Ya know, when he intercepted the phone call to Jakson Spires, that could have started the clock on his employment with Skynyrd. It would explain him saying he was in the band for 2 1/2 years. If he was hired over the phone, but it took him a year to get down to Jax from New Jersey due to all the red lights on 301 at the time (Remember, I95 wasn't finished until the late 70s or later). Sounds reasonable to me.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Mar 13, 2023 21:00:22 GMT -5
Now that is funny shyt JD. damn possible. And yes, Allen said in 79 that Rickless highjacked the drummer gig from somebody else.
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Post by TravNugara on Mar 14, 2023 2:01:28 GMT -5
Spring of 1971 until last seen in pics april 1- 1972 Jacksonville, Leon said when he joined skynyrd in september 1971, "they were void of a drummer and bass player" we can only assume Rickey was comming and going!!! 12 months maximum!!!!!! bob returned in January 1972, so it is possible they just called rickey up to play earthday 1972, 2 drummer line up!! my estimate is Rickey was with the band approx 10 months, probably less!!! there is a real lack o info right around this time rock on bob left in the spring of 1971 they had muscle shoals studio booked for July, Alan Walden said it took some time to get that studio booked,. , photos with rickey star from the spring/summer of 1971 , last pictured with the band on april 10 1972, you do the math
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Post by ttaylor on Mar 14, 2023 4:49:37 GMT -5
In all seriousness what is the definition of an “original member”? Btw no I don’t consider Medlocke one. Is it just Ronnie, Allen, Gary, Bob and Larry? Or those that played on pronounced? To me it’s either. In my mind Skynyrd original members are Ronnie, Gary, Allen, Bob, Larry, Billy, Ed King and Leon.
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Post by thenotorious on Mar 14, 2023 5:41:27 GMT -5
In all seriousness what is the definition of an “original member”? Btw no I don’t consider Medlocke one. Is it just Ronnie, Allen, Gary, Bob and Larry? Or those that played on pronounced? To me it’s either. In my mind Skynyrd original members are Ronnie, Gary, Allen, Bob, Larry, Billy, Ed King and Leon. In my opinion, original members are from 1973-1977
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Post by HUDGE "JerseyDan" on Mar 14, 2023 18:53:50 GMT -5
Spring of 1971 until last seen in pics april 1- 1972 Jacksonville, Leon said when he joined skynyrd in september 1971, "they were void of a drummer and bass player" we can only assume Rickey was comming and going!!! 12 months maximum!!!!!! bob returned in January 1972, so it is possible they just called rickey up to play earthday 1972, 2 drummer line up!! my estimate is Rickey was with the band approx 10 months, probably less!!! there is a real lack o info right around this time rock on bob left in the spring of 1971 they had muscle shoals studio booked for July, Alan Walden said it took some time to get that studio booked,. , photos with rickey star from the spring/summer of 1971 , last pictured with the band on april 10 1972, you do the math Is that a crashed plane in the background?
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Post by Cagey on Mar 14, 2023 19:30:45 GMT -5
Of course! And Rickey was on it too! Tried to belt Ronnie in but Ronnie unbuckled and Rickey was in the tail section by then.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Jul 11, 2023 22:20:26 GMT -5
I am amazed at what lengths a management company will resort too, Just to sell a ticket to a show. A show that they profit immensely from.
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Post by Ginger & Co. on Jul 12, 2023 7:34:46 GMT -5
Management better realize how incredibly savvy this band's following is!!They will never fool them into believing he was an original member..ever!!..It's been brought to my attention that the facebook pages for LS are growing every day..There is so much interest in the band and its history,its truly unbelievable..!!!.It is a religion.!!. ...What struck me is Ricky saying that Gary supported this narrative ..Thats the height of spin...
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Post by TravNugara on Jul 13, 2023 1:51:11 GMT -5
Actually gary said "he was as original as anyone else" he played in the original band for 10 months, played on 11 demos that failed to get any interest, Gary's words were after the muscle shoals recordings , we had to start again and they did, with Bob Burns and Leon Wilkeson, they recorded some more demos, and 6 of those ended up on Pronouncedm, and then in by November Ed came and Billy came, they started recording Pronounced in March 1973. Rickey had nothing to do with the success of Ronnie's Skynyrd, he may of set them back a year. when they went into Muscle shoals the first time, Bob had left weeks before, and Rickey came, the as recordings began Larry left or was fired, and Greg two Wolf Walker played bass, they were not a well rehearsed band, they were a new line up, writing songs in the studio and recording some of Rickey's blackfoot songs, they were not rehearsed like they were for pronounced!! WHen Al Kooper discovered them in July 1972, it was Leon on Bass and Bob on drums. they had been playing most of the pronounced songs and rehering at hell house everyday for nealy a year before they recorded them, they were a tight band , Ed on Bass since nov 1972 and Bob on drums. and look what the result was , a legendary Album, that the tribute band still play those songs 50 years later. rock on July 1973.
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Post by fstbck2000 on Jul 13, 2023 17:25:17 GMT -5
Here’s what Gary originally said about the original members. Thanks MDfan
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Post by southernhoser on Jul 17, 2023 14:48:08 GMT -5
Ya know, when he intercepted the phone call to Jakson Spires, that could have started the clock on his employment with Skynyrd. It would explain him saying he was in the band for 2 1/2 years. If he was hired over the phone, but it took him a year to get down to Jax from New Jersey due to all the red lights on 301 at the time (Remember, I95 wasn't finished until the late 70s or later). Sounds reasonable to me. Unfortunately I know that route pretty well JD. Numerous speeding tickets driving that route to Georgia, where I was stationed outside Valdosta. Folks lived in South Jersey.
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Post by southernhoser on Jul 17, 2023 14:54:34 GMT -5
Here’s what Gary originally said about the original members. Thanks MDfan Was that Ricky’s jaw hitting the floor when Gary didn’t mention him? 🤣🤣🤣
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