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Post by Forum Lord on Aug 26, 2015 18:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by MorrisAutoParts on Aug 27, 2015 15:05:42 GMT -5
Thanks Rickey for that recap of the music industry in the decades following the Beatles. He is always an intelligent interview.
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Post by norcalfanatic on Aug 27, 2015 15:37:27 GMT -5
That was kind of interesting hearing him talk about RVZ but one part of this interview confuses me. I had thought RVZ was trying to get in touch with Jackson Spires for the drum gig at Muscle Shoals and RM basically intercepted the call and took the gig from Spires. The way RM describes it, RVZ was personally seeking him only.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 11:57:17 GMT -5
man...after about 1 minute into this video I had to fast forward, thinking it would get better. I was wrong. Sorry Rickey, after a while all I heard was "blah blah blahhhh"..
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Post by MorrisAutoParts on Dec 14, 2015 18:37:24 GMT -5
Rickey's story makes no sense whatsoever. He claims to be in New Jersey with blackfoot, "in early 71 and called RVZ asking could he do anything, RVZ said 'we are recording in a couple weeks in Muscle Shoals, and need a drummer, we went and recorded ALL THIS MATERIAL, and that was the ORIGINAL Lynyrd Skynyrd...." Other stories say Ronnie was calling around looking for someone else to drum, Rickey has himself calling up out of the blue. COMPLETE HOGWASH. First off the band LS didn't start in 1971 so if he joined up to do some demos that wasn't the original lineup. He should talk to Gary, they had been doing it YEARS at that point.
Second blackfoot was in Gainesville in March 1971 as was Skynyrd. They were playing separately. Skynyrd did the Gainesville music festival and Duserrah festival in Gainesville up until June 1971 and barely rested before heading to Alabama. So Rickey could only have "joined" in the first week of June 1971, and he couldn't have been struggling in New Jersey for very long like he makes it sound, "getting discouraged" per Rickey, he was just playing in Gainesville in March. Was he in New Jersey for or two months and got discouraged? In late June they go and "record all this material"(he didn't write), and by October Skynyrd is back in Gainesville doing Gigs, and Bob returns shortly after. So Rickey gave up on Blackfoot pretty quick, and jumped ship went to Alabama for all of two months, came back played with Skynyrd a couple months and Bob came back and he was shortly released. From mid june 71 to January or Feb 72 had to be his tenure. NOT 73,74 like he just claimed. He played with Skynyrd for 6-8 months tops, right before they make it big, after they have been playing for years, and he claims he formed the "ORIGINAL SKYNYRD"?
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Post by BlueMonday on Dec 14, 2015 20:14:53 GMT -5
Can someone tell me what was the point of this interview? Sounds like Rickey created Skynyrd. And why exactly is he giving us a course on the history of rock'n roll? I didn't listen all the way to the end so I guess I'm probably going to flunk the final exam...
To be fair to Rickey, he's hardly the first rock star to engage in revisionism during interviews. But he's taking the game a bit far. More than just a bit, actually.
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Post by fstbck2000 on Dec 14, 2015 20:46:26 GMT -5
I never heard him say he was in the band until 73 or 74. The only thing I would question would be the phone call part and I'll never know the answer to that because Ronnies gone and everyone else has an agenda.
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Post by Forum Lord on Dec 14, 2015 21:28:22 GMT -5
I told this story many times before and probably will many more times too.
Jakson Spires was a good frynd of mine before he died. I spent a lot of time and years around him in various bands from Blackfoot to Southern Rock Allstars.
I've never known Jakson to lie. The man was as straight as they come.
He told me face to face that Ronnie called him on the phone, but that Rickey intercepted the phone call. Jakson said Ronnie wanted him to come out to Muscle Shoals to be the drummer for the band in Bob Burns absence. Only Rickey never told Jakson about the phone call. Instead, according to Jakson Spires, Rickey asked him to teach him what he needed to know on drums for 2 weeks before Rickey just up and disappeared running off to Muscle Shoals to play drums for Ronnie and his band, I assume still went by the name of One Percent and not Lynyrd Skynyrd as yet.
Jakson said he had no idea this was going on until one day in the future Ronnie came to him and asked him why he did not take that call from him when he called. Jakson said he told Ronnie he had no idea he had even called him.
Rickey took that call and did not tell Jakson about it! Rickey was looking to capitalize on that call for himself. Only thinking about himself and how to advance himself. And he is still doing it to this day.
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Post by MorrisAutoParts on Dec 15, 2015 10:38:40 GMT -5
I never heard him say he was in the band until 73 or 74. The only thing I would question would be the phone call part and I'll never know the answer to that because Ronnies gone and everyone else has an agenda. He pretty much does all in one sentence. Listen to what he is saying, "I left Skynyrd, RIGHT BEFORE THEIR FIRST ALBUM CAME OUT". HE continues on without pause, "I went back to Blackfoot in Late 73, 74".
No that is a lie. He went back to Blackfoot in 1972. Missed it just a wee bit. By stating he left Skynyrd right before Pronounced came out he is stating the exact same thing as he left in 1973. You just have to know when Pronounced came out, August 1973, and put 2 and 2 together. It's a lie, he did not leave Skynyrd in 1973.
That quote is a lie and is beyond revisionism. He doesn't just do it on this sentence however, he says he moved with Blackfoot to New Jersey, "Got discouraged, and called RVZ late 70, 71...and Ronnie said we are recording in Muscle Shoals in a couple of weeks." This is more revisionism, I don't know how he called Ronnie in Late 70, early 71, when Blackfoot was still living in Florida in March 1971, and the Muscle shoals recordings that Ronnie says is happening in a couple of weeks happened in late June 1971. So this "late 70, early 71" phone call is an impossibility unless you include June 1971 because that's when it really occurred... But he not only completely cooks the timeline making it seem he was with Skynyrd much longer than his few months, After he joins up in June 1971 Rickey clearly claims in this interview, with a smile he says "this is the ORIGINAL SKYNYRD, ME, Lary Junstrom, Gary, Allen, and Ronnie"Now this is as bad as it gets, Rickey is saying Lynyrd Skynyrd was formed when he joined in June 1971. Not true as we well know, they had been doing it years. Not sure how this can be interpreted any other way than Medlocke bragging about something totally not true. This is pretty bad lying just to inflate the ego and it is not just forgetting a few years and getting them mixed up. The point is a casual listener of this interview would think he spent all of 71,72,73 with Skynyrd before rejoining Blackfoot. The listener of this interview would remember Rickey smiling and claiming when he joined up THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL LYNYRD SKYNYRD lineup. When the reality is Medlocke was with Skynyrd not even a year, and not right before they hit it big, and not when they first started, and certainly NOT forming the original lineup as he stated in this interview.
He casually throws years around and mixes years up because he wants to be known as forming the original Skynyrd, which he left " right before their first album came out". HE SAID IT IN THIS INTERVIEW, HE LEFT RIGHT BEFORE THEIR FIRST ALBUM CAME OUT. Maybe the word "right" equals "one year" in Medlocke time. This is one of many interviews where he has done this same thing, this struggling guy in New Jersey, just happened to call of RVZ and he came down and started history. Complete Nonsense. If Blackfoot was in New Jersey(which I am beginning to doubt) when he called Ronnie(or he intecepted Ronnie's call per Cagey), he didn't Struggle there long, he bailed on New Jersey after a mere 2 months and left his band hanging big time to cut Some Skynyrd Demos. I am surprised a few months later Blackfoot let him come back. This isn't a simple mistake or a slip of the tongue, Medlocke consistently in interview after interview, some interviews years apart, is expanding his 8 month role with Skynyrd, in this vain attempt to say he helped form Skynyrd, recorded and wrote their first album as stated in other interviews, and only left right before pronounced was released(he just said that here) Maybe it doesn't matter to some, but it would have mattered to Ronnie,and Allen, this revisionism of Skynyrd's history is altering their life's work.
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Post by Forum Lord on Dec 15, 2015 10:55:16 GMT -5
It is amazing how easily this guy lies. He keeps saying over and over "his mom and dad" but in the real world he is referring to Shorty and Nita Medlocke his grandparents who raised him because Rickey's real father was in prison and no telling where his mother was.
Rickey is hiding some of his truth because he obviously does not want it out there. He wants people to think he had a normal upbringing, but he did not. He was basically an orphan the grandparents raised.
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Post by MorrisAutoParts on Dec 15, 2015 11:28:55 GMT -5
It is amazing how easily this guy lies. He keeps saying over and over "his mom and dad" but in the real world he is referring to Shorty and Nita Medlocke his grandparents who raised him because Rickey's real father was in prison and no telling where his mother was. Rickey is hiding some of his truth because he obviously does not want it out there. He wants people to think he had a normal upbringing, but he did not. He was basically an orphan the grandparents raised. He is a born liar. I would say this even if I had no interest in the band. He will casually mix and weave times and dates, for his benefit of course, without a pause. He talks of starving with Skynyrd at Muscle Shoals while creating their sound, not in this interview but in others he said that, that he helped create the Skynyrd sound. When the reality is they were there with him at Shoals for 2 months tops. They went back WITHOUT HIM, many more times. So how much influence did his drumming have during that 2 month shoals session? To Rickey it was what made the band, forget SKynyrd's previous 5 years at Hell House. Rickey was with them 2 months, made their first album for them, and created their sound. He talks of being in New Jersey and starving and struggling, when we know he was living in Jacksonville in March 1971, only 3 months before his fateful talk to Ronnie and going out to make two months worth of Demos. He has really re-created his life into something it wasn't, from his upbringing to his time with Skynyrd, it's all a lie.
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Post by MorrisAutoParts on Dec 15, 2015 16:24:50 GMT -5
To anyone thinking, well guys get dates mixed up..no. This is a lie. Repeated over and over. Here is Medlocke interviewed by Paul Guy. Note the same line "I started with them late 70,71 and was with them 3 years". actually he started June 1971 and was gone by spring 1972 at the latest. This is freaking incredible he can tell this crap with a straight face.
Greg T walker says he was with Skynyrd "5 minutes, but seriously after 6 months I left to reform Blackfoot,and I asked Rickey if he wanted to stay or go, and he went(with me) and we started blackfoot again after helping our friends(skynyrd)" So Rickey played with Skynyrd OFF AND ON for 8 months(maybe) including a couple months doubling with Bob. This 3 years business is just beyond belief he has sold this line for years.
Paul Guy- (To Rickey) How long have you been playing with the band?
Rickey : Well actually this is my return to the band, I was with them starting in late '70, early '71, I think it was three years and then I went back with Blackfoot, and now I'm back in Lynyrd Skynyrd again. In fact last year when I rejoined the band it was almost 25 years to the month. (Johnny: It was, man...) So it was really cool, it's really nice to return to friends, and people that you've known for a long time, have a chance to work with them again, and it's the first chance Johnny and I have had to be able to work in the same band together, to write, and record, and tour together, so it's worked out really well.
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Post by BlueMonday on Dec 15, 2015 22:01:45 GMT -5
It is amazing how easily this guy lies. He keeps saying over and over "his mom and dad" but in the real world he is referring to Shorty and Nita Medlocke his grandparents who raised him because Rickey's real father was in prison and no telling where his mother was. Rickey is hiding some of his truth because he obviously does not want it out there. He wants people to think he had a normal upbringing, but he did not. He was basically an orphan the grandparents raised. In all fairness to Rickey, he probably thinks of Shorty and his wife as his mother and father. Since his real parents were absent from his early life, Shorty and his wife took over the role. So I think it's normal for Rickey to think of them as his mom and dad. They fullfilled the role, even if by strict definition, they weren't.
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Post by Forum Lord on Dec 17, 2015 20:15:22 GMT -5
Darryl Cole said: Very Cool! I hope the dumbass that argued with me that Rickey Medlocke wasnt ever in Skynyrd sees this!
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Post by fstbck2000 on Dec 17, 2015 21:10:09 GMT -5
That chart is not accurate.
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Post by MorrisAutoParts on Dec 29, 2015 23:48:42 GMT -5
It is not an accurate chart. Also I am not sure who Darryl Cole is, but I don't think anyone ever denied Medlocked played with Skynyrd for a few months. "in the band" is a somewhat vague term, but I doubt he was an equal partner even during his very short stay. One thing is for sure, he wasn't with them 3 years like he told Paul Guy and has tried to maintain in multiple interviews. That's a whopper of a lie. He didn't last a year.
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Post by LittleRedRooster on Sept 9, 2022 14:14:12 GMT -5
Rickey's story makes no sense whatsoever. He claims to be in New Jersey with blackfoot, "in early 71 and called RVZ asking could he do anything, RVZ said 'we are recording in a couple weeks in Muscle Shoals, and need a drummer, we went and recorded ALL THIS MATERIAL, and that was the ORIGINAL Lynyrd Skynyrd...." Other stories say Ronnie was calling around looking for someone else to drum, Rickey has himself calling up out of the blue. COMPLETE HOGWASH. First off the band LS didn't start in 1971 so if he joined up to do some demos that wasn't the original lineup. He should talk to Gary, they had been doing it YEARS at that point. Second blackfoot was in Gainesville in March 1971 as was Skynyrd. They were playing separately. Skynyrd did the Gainesville music festival and Duserrah festival in Gainesville up until June 1971 and barely rested before heading to Alabama. So Rickey could only have "joined" in the first week of June 1971, and he couldn't have been struggling in New Jersey for very long like he makes it sound, "getting discouraged" per Rickey, he was just playing in Gainesville in March. Was he in New Jersey for or two months and got discouraged? In late June they go and "record all this material"(he didn't write), and by October Skynyrd is back in Gainesville doing Gigs, and Bob returns shortly after. So Rickey gave up on Blackfoot pretty quick, and jumped ship went to Alabama for all of two months, came back played with Skynyrd a couple months and Bob came back and he was shortly released. From mid june 71 to January or Feb 72 had to be his tenure. NOT 73,74 like he just claimed. He played with Skynyrd for 6-8 months tops, right before they make it big, after they have been playing for years, and he claims he formed the "ORIGINAL SKYNYRD"? Again, Morris nails the logistics. Medlockey has been "Factually" proven wrong SO MANY TIMES, in his quest to repeat the worn out lie that Medlockey was an original member of Lynyrd Skynyrd.
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